Good evening, I'm Larry King. Our guest tonight, Nick Naylor, who has been here before on several occasions, but tonight is not going to tell us that there is no link between smoking and lung cancer. Right?"
"That's right, Larry."
"This book you've written, Thank You for Smoking. Curious title. What does it mean?"
"It's meant to be ironic, Larry. Though my former employers, the tobacco lobby, for whom I used to lie on shows like this, actually have signs printed that say that."
"This book you've written is very controversial. It's got a lot of people angry."
"Yes it has, Larry."
"Let's run down the list. Jeff Megall, head of the most powerful talent agency in Hollywood. He's called it 'Beneath comment.' "
"I'll take it as a compliment, Larry. As you may know, his former executive assistant, Jack Bein, has bought the movie rights to the book. He and Jeff had a falling out."
"Senator Ortolan K. Finisterre, very powerful man here in Washington, says that you wrote the book to quote clear your troubled conscience unquote."
"Actually, Larry, it was prison that pretty much cleared my conscience."
"So why the book?"
"Money, Larry. I wrote the book for money."
"That's refreshing to hear."
"My wife, Polly, and I are expecting a child and, well, you know, tuition and all. "
"Congratulations. What about your other 'Mod Squad' friend— that stands for 'Merchant of Death,' right?"
"Right."
"Tell us what's become of Bobby Jay Bliss, the former gun lobby spokesman?"
"He's very big in the Christian Prison Fellowship organization. You know, the organization founded by Chuck Colson. He's happy. Still shoots. We see him. Of course, we don't call ourselves that anymore, since we now recognize the wickedness of our former ways."
"And Polly, does she work?"
"Yes, since becoming pregnant, she's gotten very interested in prenatal health issues. She's with the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome Foundation here in Washington. Fasfuff."
"You say in the book, which by the way, I recommend to our viewers, a very good book—"
"Thank you, Larry."
"— that you pleaded guilty even though you didn't kidnap yourself and cover yourself with nicotine patches. Question — Why?"
"Well, Larry, for two reasons. First, I was told that it would cost something like a million and a half dollars in legal fees to fight that, and I don't have that kind of money. Secondly, I came to the conclusion that I deserved to be put away for all the horrible things I did when I worked for the tobacco industry. By the way, if any of our viewers have lung cancer from smoking or anything, or have relatives who do, I'd like to apologize. And if any kids are listening, listen, don't smoke. It'll kill you. Also stains your teeth, which is totally uncool."
"Any idea, then, who did kidnap you?"
"None at all, Larry. I guess I'll go to my grave wondering."
"What was prison like?"
"Oh, not too bad. It was one of those minimum security places, Pleasanton, California, where they send insider traders and such. Mostly, it was boring. Really, really boring." "And you were there for two and a half years?"
"Uh-huh. I did meet some interesting people. Lot of bankers."
"So what are you doing now that you've finished the book?"
"I'm working for an organization called Clean Lungs 2000, Larry. It's a very fine organization that, basically, tries to get people to stop smoking."
"Satisfying work?"
"Oh, very. And I'm learning things. For instance, did you know that smoking causes impotence?" "No."
"It's a scientific fact, Larry. There's some very interesting research going on right now. Of course, the tobacco lobby doesn't want you to know that."
"In your book you depict your former boss, BR, Budd Rohrabacher, as a pretty devious person."
"May he rest in peace, he was a thorough swine, Larry."
"What about his assistant, Jeannette, the one the police suspect may have had something to do with his death by smoke inhalation."
"I understand from some former — from some people that she's probably in the Far East somewhere, working for an escort service that caters to particular tastes."
"Do you think that she killed him?"
"Who knows, Larry. These things do happen, of course. People get careless with cigarettes. Of course, the most careless thing you can do with any cigarette is to light it in the first place."
"The subtitle of the book—-Jujitsuing the Neo-Puritans—what does that mean?"
"Well, as you know, jujitsu is the Japanese art of self-defense in which you use your opponent's weight and strength against him. That was really all I ever had to do. Though I certainly don't advocate smoking, there are some very sanctimonious people lined up on the non-smoking side. So it was just a matter of giving them a little shove and putting my foot behind them. I was actually pretty good at it. It was the only thing I was ever really good at. Well, the Nazi war criminals were fairly normal, too. A lot of them were family types, you know, take the kids to the zoo on Sundays. Mondays, go back to exterminating people, invading countries, goose-stepping. The new head of the Academy of Tobacco Studies, for instance, is very big in the Boy Scouts, the Kiwanis, Rotary International, Elks. If you met him and didn't know what he did, you'd probably think, nice guy, regular sort."
"You dedicate the book to two people: Doak Boykin—'the Captain'—former chairman of the board of the tobacco lobby, and Lorne Lutch, the former Tumbleweed brand model."
"Fine people, Larry. I think they should be forgiven for their role in tobacco, because they were of a previous generation that didn't really know just how bad it was for you. And by the end of their lives, they both saw the light, as it were, and regretted their. well, they felt badly about it. I spoke to the Captain the night before he died and he told me as much. As for Lorne, who died a couple of years ago— BR actually sent me out there with a briefcase full of five hundred thousand dollars cash to bribe him to stop denouncing tobacco, and you know what he did — this is in the book — he kicked me right out of there."
"That's a lot of temptation, five hundred grand." "It certainly was, Larry. Courageous man."
"We're going to take some calls. Winston-Salem, North Carolina, you're on Larry King."
"Larry, I want to say that I think that man is lower than the slime on a catfish's belly. And I apologize to the catfish."
"Nick, care to comment?"
"Not really, Larry."
"Emotional issue."